92 thoughts to “Open Thread Non Petroleum, April 1, 2021”

  1. Biden’s Jobs Plan Includes $10B For A Civilian Climate Corps. Is It Enough?

    The White House says the New Deal-style program will “mobilize the next generation of conservation and resilience workers.”

    he Biden administration’s $2 trillion infrastructure package unveiled on Wednesday envisions a New Deal-style effort to combat climate change while also protecting and restoring America’s public lands.

    The plan includes $10 billion to create a federal Civilian Climate Corps, akin to the Civilian Conservation Corps that was established in 1933 as part of President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal.

    The White House said the new program will “mobilize the next generation of conservation and resilience workers.”

    The investment “will put a new, diverse generation of Americans to work conserving our public lands and waters, bolstering community resilience, and advancing environmental justice through a new Civilian Climate Corps, all while placing good-paying union jobs within reach for more Americans,” reads a lengthy fact sheet on the plan.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-jobs-plan-civilian-climate-corps_n_606631b8c5b6aa24bc608c1f

      1. Trump does have some strong points:

        Costs to the taxpayers for golf outings in the first 41 days of their presidency:

        Bush 41: $0
        Obama: $0
        Trump: $578,640
        Biden: $0

        “And let’s not forget that most of that money went directly into Trump’s pocket since he realized early that he could ding the taxpayers for his week-end forays to his own properties. The man never left a penny on the sidewalk.”

        He keeps the sidewalks clean.

  2. President Biden proposes $174B spend on EVs and chargers

    As part of his more than $2-trillion spending package (“The American Jobs Plan”), President Biden is proposing a $174-billion investment in the EV market in the US. Among the broad elements of the proposal are:

    Enabling automakers to spur domestic supply chains from raw materials to parts, retool factories to compete globally, and support American workers to make batteries and EVs.

    Giving consumers point of sale rebates and tax incentives to buy American-made EVs, while ensuring that these vehicles are affordable for all families and manufactured by workers with good jobs.

    Establishing grant and incentive programs for state and local governments and the private sector to build a national network of 500,000 EV chargers by 2030, while promoting strong labor, training, and installation standards.

    Replacing 50,000 diesel transit vehicles and electrifying at least 20% of the school bus fleet through a new Clean Buses for Kids Program at the Environmental Protection Agency, with support from the Department of Energy.

    Electrifying the federal fleet, including that of the United States Postal Service.

    https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/04/20210401-biden.html

  3. President Biden proposes $174B spend on EVs and chargers

    As part of his more than $2-trillion spending package (“The American Jobs Plan”), President Biden is proposing a $174-billion investment in the EV market in the US. Among the broad elements of the proposal are:

    Enabling automakers to spur domestic supply chains from raw materials to parts, retool factories to compete globally, and support American workers to make batteries and EVs.

    Giving consumers point of sale rebates and tax incentives to buy American-made EVs, while ensuring that these vehicles are affordable for all families and manufactured by workers with good jobs.

    Establishing grant and incentive programs for state and local governments and the private sector to build a national network of 500,000 EV chargers by 2030, while promoting strong labor, training, and installation standards.

    Replacing 50,000 diesel transit vehicles and electrifying at least 20% of the school bus fleet through a new Clean Buses for Kids Program at the Environmental Protection Agency, with support from the Department of Energy.

    Electrifying the federal fleet, including that of the United States Postal Service.

    https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/04/20210401-biden.html

  4. But where does the money come from?

    Oh, yeah, I forgot. We go into more debt and the federal reserve buys up that debt by creating more dollars. Forever. The magical money machine, just like the creamy nugget of oil that never runs out.

    1. Dolph , I don’t know from where it is coming ,but I know where it is going . Destination China .

    2. Dolph,

      MMT. They issue their own currency and just use it willy nilly. U.S Debt will never be paid, it will only continue to get larger and larger.

    4. “But where does the money come from?”

      Same place the 1.9$ Trillion spent on the war fought over fabricated weapons of mass destruction evidence (the Cheney-Bush Iraq War).
      Didn’t here many complaints about that money spent from republicans.
      Guess they like bombs and head injuries better than domestic infrastructure spending.

      1. Labor is a renewable resource with a social and economic cost by not being utilized to it’s fullest. As aposed to oil that is a limited resource with no cost saving it for later use in the ground, if current oil labor is used towards transition. The transition away from oil for transportation is vital for economic and environmental future of humanity and the sooner the better. The transformation is not going to be easy and will take a minimum of a couple of decades. This is just part of the race for civilization survival. It’s not a question of if we can afford to spend the money, but the fact we can’t afford not too.

        1. “It’s not a question of if we can afford to spend the money, but the fact we can’t afford not too.”

          Dead on, center of the bullseye.

  5. I came across a ‘food/feed’ product advertised as “Sustainable protein to meet global demand”.

    We will be seeing many such products over the next decade or two. It is important to be able to analyze these products and the energy flow though the system.
    This product uses a particular microorganism to produce protein-rich powder that can be used in various forms.
    Great…
    But if you look into it you can quickly realize that this protein is not built on a photosynthesis based energy system. That is unless you acknowledge that nat gas energy is from photosynthesis from many millions of years ago- fossil fuel/not current.
    The product is microorganism bodies grown on nat gas for energy and added nitrogen/nutrients.
    And somehow this is advertised as “Natural, Sustainable Alternative Protein”.

    A product like this would be more accurately described as an “Industrial Fossil Fuel Protein Powder” [using a microorganism as the micro-factory]

    It is not from a system like Algae, that is actually grown in water and sunlight, and can derive its nitrogen directly from the atmosphere.

    Example of green-washing for a gullible populace, eager to feel good about the gross overpopulation of the world.-
    http://www.feedkind.com/what-is-feedkind/

  6. Teachable moment for anyone interested.
    There’s no substitute for phosphate fertilizers.
    Agriculture as we know it in industrialized countries is about as dependent on phosphate mining as the trucking industry is on oil.

    Somebody, taxpayers would be my guess, is going to be on the hook for one hell of an expensive cleanup job at an old mine in Florida which is dominating the news right this minute.

    1. OFM , I recall a regular on TOD who use to sign off his post by ” Did you hug your bag of NPK ” . Indeed a teachable moment , just like the Suez incident . As they say ” Nothing bad happens ,till it happens to you ” .

    2. “Teachable moment for anyone interested.
      There’s no substitute for phosphate fertilizers.
      Agriculture as we know it in industrialized countries is about as dependent on phosphate mining as the trucking industry is on oil.”

      However, the interesting or better relevant observation is that the consumption of phosphate increased much more than the output of agricultural products. For me as chemist that indicates that most of the phosphate is actually wasted.

      You can of course avoid erosion and loss of phosphate by better agricultural practice and you can regain some of the phosphate in riversand sewer waters if you want.

      1. Someone needs to come up with a way of taxing fertilizer runoff.

      2. Hi Ulenspeigel,

        You’re right of course. We farmers have sharp pencils these days, and we tend to apply fertilizer in the amounts that generate the greatest PROFIT as the result of using it, rather than in the amounts that produce the most benefit per ton of fertilizer. This applies right across the board for just about every kind commonly used, except some extremely expensive ones that aren’t used on the grand scale, such as bone meal, fish byproducts, etc.

        It’s cheap enough that we do apply more than we should in a lot of cases, in terms of its effect on the environment. It’s still damned expensive though!

        But there’s a slow steady progress happening in the way we use just about all chemical inputs, with the result being that we are gradually reducing the amounts used on modern farms in relation to the amount of food and fiber produced.

        If industrial civilization survives another fifty or hundred years, I anticipate most or nearly all run off being eliminated, as a purely cost effective measure, helped along by penalties for failing to minimize it.

        And it’s likely that we will also be recovering most or nearly all the major nutrients in waste water passing thru sewage treatment plants.

        1. A likely very many more will be ‘farmers’ (so to speak, because they’ll likely see ‘farming’ as just something integral/holistic to their realities) and nearer to home, in the following years and decades.
          Therefore, incidentally, designations like, say, ‘Old Farmer Mac’ may become somewhat pointless.

          It will be nice and good that more members of our future generations get back to the Earth and get know it better, more intimately. That’s how appreciation for what’s actually important is nurtured.

      3. “the consumption of phosphate increased much more than the output of agricultural products.”
        A glance at the data global phosphate for fertilizer vs ag output-
        Ag output outpacing the phosphate use.
        i think you’ve got the story backwards?

      4. Or keep your fertilizers, etc., locally through proper composting.

        Industrial agro is just plain wrong/stupid and, as such, has a limited shelf-life.

        I see a mass reverse-exodus out of many cities– it already appears to be beginning– and much more of ‘us’, such as the Millennials perhaps and generations thereafter, getting back to the land, where we belong.

  7. I’ve been saying for quite some time that the role of the church in our American political life is that of a dead man walking, that the old folks are dying, that there aren’t that many middle aged kids as there were a couple of generations back, and that grandchildren are actually sort of scarce these days, even in the Bible Belt where I live in one of the darkest corners.

    I have or HAD a dozen aunts and uncles. My generation hasn’t a single woman closer kin to me than maybe a second or third cousin who has more than four kids, and there’s only one or two of those. One or two is the rule, three is the exception.

    And the niece and nephew generation is averaging WELL UNDER two kids, roughly about one and a half.
    Far fewer than half of them attend church regularly.

    The media are finally taking notice, lol

    From the Guardian,

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/05/americans-religion-rightwing-politics-decline

    There’s a lot more but this is the tl dr clip
    Fewer than half of Americans belong to a house of worship, a new study shows, but religion – and Christianity in particular – continues to have an outsize influence in US politics, especially because it is declining faster among Democrats than Republicans.

    Just 47% of the US population are members of a church, mosque or synagogue, according to a survey by Gallup, down from 70% two decades ago – in part a result of millennials turning away from religion but also, experts say, a reaction to the swirling mix of rightwing politics and Christianity pursued by the Republican party.
    I thought I was over my Catholic guilt about being gay. Maybe I was wrong?
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    The evidence comes as Republicans in some states have pursued extreme “Christian nationalist” policies, attempting to force their version of Christianity on an increasingly uninterested public.

    This week the governor of Arkansas signed a law allowing doctors to refuse to treat LGBTQ people on religious grounds, and other states are exploring similar legislation.

    Gallup began asking Americans about their church membership in 1937 – and for decades the number was always above 70%. That began to change in 2000, and the number has steadily dropped ever since.

    1. Thanks for pointing this out OFM.

      I find it interesting that the Q Anon /conspiracy theory crowd is heavily republican.
      And that these people seem so desperate for false narratives about life and the world.
      It should not be too surprising- most of us have been primed by false narrative about history and the nature of the universe ever since we could first learn language, by the religious organizations that our families herd us towards without any choice.

      I will give on example of how deeply brainwashed we all are.
      The ultimate freedom, and it should be protected in the bill of rights, is the right to die.
      On your own terms, at the time of your choosing.
      Like nofault insurance- no explanation need be provided.
      The choice and method should not be a struggle.
      It should not be illegal.
      It should not be a crime against nature- Perhaps killing another being for eating should be seen as a crime against nature, not ending your own life.

      And yet, we all swallow the ‘religion’ narrative on this without question.

      We need to question it all. Not just creationism, not just rank-ism of the clergy.
      Not just pedophilia of the clergy.
      Not just notions of manifest destiny and exceptionalism (of those with the bigger gun).

      No need to pray to god.
      Being thankful and respectful for goodness is the real deal.

    2. LIke all things in America, religion becomes intertwined with identity and politics.

      Why must it be so? Because we are already divided and conquered. Not by religion, of course, but by the big corporations.

      Notice how if I say that, you immediately become rabid like an attack dog, proving my point. They make trillions of dollars, outsource production, offshore profits, reduce wages, and you attack anybody who notices it.

  8. CO2 data from Mauna Loa above 421.21 ppm up from 415.6 a year ago and 393.88 just 10 years ago.

    As homo sapiens, we have never had CO2 this high.

    1. And,

      SOARING METHANE EMISSIONS SUGGEST U.S. OIL PRODUCTION IS BOUNCING BACK

      “Last year when the pandemic hit, methane emissions slumped by as much as 60 percent as drillers curbed production. Now, as drilling begins to recover, emissions are recovering, too, and at a much faster rate. So if production ever reaches pre-pandemic levels, methane emissions could hit a new record in the absence of regulatory and voluntary action.”

      https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Soaring-Methane-Emissions-Suggest-US-Oil-Production-Is-Bouncing-Back.html

      1. Not to be outdone,

        METHANE EMISSIONS FROM RUSSIAN PIPELINES SURGED DURING THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC

        Falling oil and gas prices often go hand in hand with an increase of flaring and venting, which involve burning methane or directly releasing the potent gas into the atmosphere, said Jonathan Banks, senior policy advisor at the US-based Clean Air Task Force. “We have seen this in south Texas.”

        https://www.climatechangenews.com/2021/03/04/methane-emissions-russian-pipelines-surged-coronavirus-pandemic/

    1. It should by now be obvious to all but the most severely of the deluded that Musk is a mountebank. Always was. It’s easy to see. Perhaps he’ll deflect by announcing some new cartoonish venture.

      1. As societies decline, people turn to saviors. The initiative, wealth, and importance of ordinary people has been relentlessly stripped away, so they have to believe that somebody else out there is a hero who is living the high life and is also saving us all. Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne.

        Trump served that role for his base: conservative, rural white Americans. Musk and the tech giants serve that role for their base: urban, liberal, multiracial. Hollywood celebrities and athletes serve that role for everyone.

        It is what it is. Much like peak oil, all of this is inevitable and baked in.

        1. Dolph ,several years ago read a book ” Tumbling Tide ” by Peter Goodchild . It was peak oil based .
          He says that peak oil will lead to collapse . His forecast was that prior to collapse will be the rise of 4 C which were Crime + Crazies + Cults + Chaos = Collapse . Seems we are almost there if not already there . Musk ,Modi, Erdogan are just signs of the time .

        2. As societies decline, people turn to saviors.

          Good point Dolph. Your whole post was spot on. Those less fortunate always need a savior, someone to place their hopes on. But you forgot one thing, the very desperate need to have someone to blame for their misfortune. They need a devil. The Democrats are their current devil.

          Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a god, but never without belief in a devil.
          Eric Hoffer:
          The True Believer.

      2. My impression is that very few admire Musk as a ‘savior’ figure.
        He is admired by many for getting some very big challenging projects done.
        And that is about it.
        Most people look at him with a strong dose of healthy skepticism.
        Why the republican voters didn’t extend any skepticism to a character like Trump is a tremendously more troublesome cultural event in the history of this country. A gross failure in the character of America, and a whole different subject.

        People rightly give Musk credit for kicking the electric vehicle industry into high gear.
        But the important part of that story has nothing to do with him.
        It has to do with a huge transition in the the technical capacity and feasibility of the transport industry, of massive historical magnitude.

        People who want to make the story about him (good or bad) are just lost down a foolish or fruitless path.

        note- I would be a great enemy of one like Musk is he sought public power/policy position, or if he became at all involved with the weaponization of robotic/autonomous equipment. Those things would be very dangerous.

        1. “I would be a great enemy of one like Musk is he sought public power/policy position” ~ Hick

          News Flash- he’s a billionaire!
          Elon Musk vows to move Tesla factory in lockdown row
          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52601750

          The sycophants will be in full damage control and downplaying the past embarrassment of hanging on Musk’s every word/tweet/dream/idea/whatever (how’s Fred Magyar these days?); as well they will describe Musk’s detractors as “people who want to make a story about him”. Well, it might be a true story so I guess there’s that? Musk is a first class mountebank. Now that that’s obvious to all, his fans, and former admirers now feeling shame, would like you to stop talking about it all so much – Nothing to see here.

          https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/

          1. Glad you’ve got the Musk worrying covered Survivalist.
            You’re carrying the load for dozens of us.
            Somebodys got to do it.

  10. 31 Reasons Why I Won’t Take the Vaccine

    “The following list was created by Israeli Rabbi Chananya Weissman. [obviously approved by the World Doctors Alliance]

    1. It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.

    2. The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.

    3. The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.

    4. I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.

    5. The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.

    6. The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.

    7. Israel’s Prime Minister has openly admitted that the Israeli people are the world’s laboratory for this experimental treatment. I am not interested in being a guinea pig or donating my body to science.

    8. Israel agreed to share medical data of its citizens with a foreign drug company as a fundamental part of their agreement to receive this treatment.I never consented for my personal medical data to be shared with any such entity, nor was I even asked. I will not contribute to this sleazy enterprise.

    9. The executives and board members at Pfizer are on record that they have not taken their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances. They are claiming that they would consider it unfair to ‘cut the line’. This is a preposterous excuse, and it takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah to even say such a thing. Such a ‘line’ is a figment of their own imagination; if they hogged a couple of injections for themselves no one would cry foul. In addition, billionaires with private jets and private islands are not known for waiting in line until hundreds of millions of peasants all over the world go first to receive anything these billionaires want for themselves.

    10. The establishment media have accepted this preposterous excuse without question or concern. Moreover, they laud Pfizer’s executives for their supposed self-sacrifice in not taking their own experimental treatment until we go first. Since they consider us such fools, I do not trust them, and do not want their new treatment. They can have my place in line. I’ll go to the very back of the line.

    11. Three facts that must be put together:

    Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race. Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be ‘depopulated’. Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.

    Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.

    Vaccines: Mainstream Media Has Become a Shocking Exhibit of Intellectual Bigotry and Thought Coercion

    12. The establishment has been entirely one-sided in celebrating this treatment.The politicians and media are urging people to take it as both a moral and civic duty. The benefits of the treatment are being greatly exaggerated, the risks are being ignored, and the unknowns are being brushed aside. Because they are being deceitful and manipulative, I will not gamble my personal wellbeing on their integrity.

    13. There is an intense propaganda campaign for people to take this treatment.Politicians and celebrities are taking selfies of themselves getting injected (perhaps in some cases pretending to get injected), the media is hyping this as the coolest, smartest, most happy and fun thing to do. It is the most widespread marketing campaign in history. This is not at all appropriate for any medical treatment, let alone a brand new one, and it makes me recoil.

    14. The masses are following in tow, posting pictures of themselves getting injected with a drug, feeding the mass peer pressure to do the same. There is something very alarming and sick about this, and I want no part of it. I never took drugs just because ‘everyone’s doing it’ and it’s cool. I’m certainly not going to start now.

    15. Those who raise concerns about this medical treatment are being bullied, slandered, mocked, censored, ostracized, threatened, and fired from their jobs. This includes medical professionals who have science-based concerns about the drug and caregivers who have witnessed people under their charge suffering horrible reactions and death shortly after being injected. When the establishment is purging good people who risk everything simply to raise concerns about a new medical treatment — even if they don’t outright oppose it — I will trust these brave people over the establishment every time. I cannot think of a single similar case in history when truth and morality turned out to be on the side of the establishment.

    16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race.

    17. It is purposely not being portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is being severely downplayed.

    18. Were they up front with the masses, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment. Manipulating the masses to participate in a medical experiment under false pretenses violates the foundations of medical ethics and democratic law. I will not allow unethical people who engage in such conduct to inject me with anything.

    19. The medical establishment is not informing people about any of this. They have become marketing agents for an experimental drug, serving huge companies and politicians who have made deals with them. This is a direct conflict with their mandate to concern themselves exclusively with the wellbeing of the people under their care. Since the medical establishment has become corrupted, and has become nothing more than a corporate and political tool, I do not trust the experimental drug they want so badly to inject me with.

    20. We are being pressured in various ways to get injected, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of democratic society. The best way to get me not to do something is to pressure me to do it.

    21. The government has sealed their protocol related to the virus and treatments for THIRTY YEARS. This is information that the public has a right to know, and the government has a responsibility to share. What are they covering up? Do they really expect me to believe that everything is kosher about all this, and that they are concerned first and foremost with my health? The last time they did this was with the Yemenite Children Affair. If you’re not familiar with it, look it up. Now they’re pulling the same shtick. They didn’t fool me the first time, and they’re definitely not fooling me now.

    22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won’t share their own protocol on the matter with us? I’m out.

    23. The establishment has recruited doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to harangue people who don’t want to get injected with a new drug. We are being called the worst sort of names. We are being told that we believe in crazy conspiracies, that we are against science, that we are selfish, that we are murderers, that we don’t care about the elderly, that it’s our fault that the government continues to impose draconian restrictions on the public. It’s all because we don’t want to get injected with an experimental treatment, no questions asked. We are even being told that we have a religious obligation to do this, and that we are grave sinners if we do not. They say that if we do not agree to get injected, we should be forced to stay inside our homes forever and be ostracized from public life.

    This is horrific, disgusting, a perversion of common sense, morality, and the Torah. It makes me recoil, and only further cements my distrust of these people and my opposition to taking their experimental drug. How dare they?

    24. I know of many people who got injected, but none of them studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits against the risks, compared this option to other alternatives, was truly informed, and decided this medical treatment was the best option for them. On the contrary, they got injected because of the hype, the propaganda, the pressure, the fear, blind trust in what ‘the majority of experts’ supposedly believed (assuming THEY all studied everything in depth and were completely objective, which is highly dubious), blind trust in what certain influential rabbis urged them to do (ditto the above), or hysterical fear that the only option was getting injected or getting seriously ill from the virus. When I see mass hysteria and cult-like behavior surrounding a medical treatment, I will be extremely suspicious and avoid it.

    25. The drug companies have a long and glorious history of causing mass carnage with wonder drugs they thrust on unsuspecting populations, even after serious problems had already become known. Instead of pressing the pause button and halting the marketing of these drugs until these issues could be properly investigated, the drug companies did everything in their power to suppress the information and keep pushing their products. When companies and people have demonstrated such gross lack of concern for human life, I will not trust them when they hype a new wonder drug. This isn’t our first rodeo.

    26. Indeed, the horror stories are already coming in at warp speed, but the politicians are not the least bit concerned, the medical establishment is brushing them aside as unrelated or negligible, the media is ignoring it, the drug companies are steaming ahead at full speed, and those who raise a red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished. Clearly my life and my wellbeing are not their primary concern. I will not be their next guinea pig in their laboratory. I will not risk being the next ‘coincidence’.

    27. Although many people have died shortly after getting injected — including perfectly healthy young people — we are not allowed to imply that the injection had anything to do with it. Somehow this is anti-science and will cause more people to die. I believe that denying any possible link, abusing people who speculate that there might be a link, and demonstrating not the slightest curiosity to even explore if there might be a link is what is anti-science and could very well cause more people to die. These same people believe I am obligated to get injected as well. No freaking thanks.

    28. I am repulsed by the religious, cult-like worship of a pharmaceutical product, and will not participate in this ritual.

    29. My ‘healthcare’ provider keeps badgering me to get injected, yet they have provided me no information on this treatment or any possible alternatives.Everything I know I learned from others outside the establishment. Informed consent has become conformed consent. I decline.

    30. I see all the lies, corruption, propaganda, manipulation, censorship, bullying, violation of medical ethics, lack of integrity in the scientific process, suppression of inconvenient adverse reactions, dismissal of legitimate concerns, hysteria, cult-like behavior, ignorance, closed-mindedness, fear, medical and political tyranny, concealment of protocols, lack of true concern for human life, lack of respect for basic human rights and freedoms, perversion of the Torah and common sense, demonization of good people, the greatest medical experiment of all time being conducted by greedy, untrustworthy, godless people, the lack of liability for those who demand I risk everything… I see all this and I have decided they can all have my place in line. I will put my trust in God. I will use the mind He blessed me with and trust my natural instincts.

    Which leads to the final reason which sums up why I will not get ‘vaccinated’.

    31. The Whole thing Stinks.“

    Never thought I’d be inclined to agree with a rabbi, but he does seem onto something. ‘u^

    1. Calean, I have purposely, for the last several months, avoided replying to any of your posts. But after you posted this bullshit, I must. Those who oppose getting vaccinated are deliberately causing deaths, many deaths. You are a first-class goddamn idiot. If you get covid and die, they should award you with the Darwinian Award, posthumously.

      1. A Rabbi, The Precautionary Principle & A New Award From Ron Patterson!

        “Calean, I have purposely, for the last several months, avoided replying to any of your posts. But after you posted this bullshit, I must. Those who oppose getting vaccinated are deliberately causing deaths, many deaths. You are a first-class goddamn idiot. If you get covid and die, they should award you with the Darwinian Award, posthumously.” ~ Ron Patterson

        Good morning, Ron.
        I think you meant ‘Darwin’.
        When you stoop– and at your apparent age of ~82 no less– to personal insults and shit like that– and with nothing to back up your take on the ‘vax’ issue to boot and/or vis-a-vis the rabbi’s– you ‘support’ the rabbi’s take, ‘infect’ any of yours you may present at a later time, and ‘compliment’ both the rabbi and me, in one fell swoop.

        BTW, how are you doing at your new abode? How are you finding it?

        And how’s the health in general?
        Have you taken the ‘vaccine’ incidentally? AstraZeneca?
        If so, then, presumably, you should be protected from folks who haven’t, yes?

        See also here.

        “Lest anyone protest that the state’s true ‘function’ or ‘duty’ or ‘end’ is, as Locke, Madison, and countless others have argued, to protect individuals’ rights to life, liberty, and property, the evidence of history clearly shows that, as a rule, real states do not behave accordingly. The idea that states actually function along such lines or that they strive to carry out such a duty or to achieve such an end resides in the realm of wishful thinking. Although some states in their own self-interest may at some times protect some residents of their territories (other than the state’s own functionaries), such protection is at best highly unreliable and all too often nothing but a solemn farce. Moreover, it is invariably mixed with crimes against the very people the state purports to protect, because the state cannot even exist without committing the crimes of extortion and robbery, which states call taxation (Nock 1939), and as a rule, this existential state crime is but the merest beginning of its assaults on the lives, liberties, and property of its resident population.” ~ Robert Higgs

      2. I am lucky.
        I have not had the ‘pleasure’ of reading anything Calean has said for years [ignore button]
        And so my mind is less polluted.

      3. And those who support covid vaccinations are also deliberately causing deaths, many deaths.

        “As of February 4, 2021, the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) has received 12,697 injury reports following COVID-19 vaccination and 653 deaths”

        And I would guess that only a small percentage of averse reactions ever get reported to VAERS due to the religious like fervor and it’s resulting peer pressure and the difficulty in the reporting process.

        1. Farmlad, you did not give the source of your data. Was it the same nutcase that Calean quoted? At any rate, even if they were true, which I seriously doubt, they pale in comparison to Covid deaths.

          As of Yesterday Cases, 30,999,998 Deaths, 560,083

          I’ll bet you also voted for Trump. Only a Trumpite could come up with such bullshit.

          1. Ron It would do you some good to do your own research so no data link this time.

            And you are wrong again. The only politician I ever voted for was Andrew Yang in the primaries and I’m still proud of what the yang Gang achieved in helping Americans from all sides become comfortable with the Idea of a UBI. I hate to imagine where this nation would be without the 3 UBI checks so far, and the partial rent and mortgage payment jubilees. UBI is helping to expose the reality of the Cantillon effect and people are figuring this shit out in their own limited ways.

            I was quite convinced right from the get go when Trump started to become popular in 2016 that he was essentially no different from his eventual Democrat rival. Neither one was interested in the well being of the majority of the citizens but instead were looking out for themselves and happy to collude with the biggest donors.

            1. I was quite convinced right from the get go when Trump started to become popular in 2016 that he was essentially no different from his eventual Democrat rival.

              That statement alone tells me enough about you and your intellect. You are basically saying: “There is no difference between Trump and Biden”. Any person who would, at this late date in 2021, make such a statement, is not worth my effort to reply.

              I am reminded of what one scientist said about Young Earth Creationists: “These people are idiots. They should be ignored, not argued with.”

              Bye now.

        2. There is only one reason to avoid getting vaccination for Covid-

          You like to see the population decline, and viral death/suffocation is a mechanism that is fine with you.
          And you don’t mind if your family, friends, work associates, and perhaps yourself is part of that death list.

          Death Risk/Benefit ratio of Covid vaccination in the USA currently is about 560,000 to 1
          Hint- 3 to 1 is a big benefit

            1. So all the people who are not able to think in a rational way and ignore that the risk of side effects and deaths because of vaccination is very small compared to dying from a Covid-19 infection are waiting for herd immunity in order for the economy to completely reopen, in the meantime overloading the hospitals and bankrupt many stores and companies leading to many more deaths from Covid-19, postponed operationes and medical treatments, starvation and suicides during at least this year and next year

        3. Farmlad, some people simply cannot be reasoned with.
          And if a society, along with those people, are going to aggress our ‘being’, (like set viruses, nuclear or fossil fuel disasters loose into our environment or threaten the natural flora and fauna that we rely on, etcetera), it is very clearly not a society worth living in or capitulating to.

          “No, I will just start deleting posts that call people, who post on this list, names. And if that person continues to call people vile names I will ban that IP address.” ~ Ron Patterson

    2. Generally I don’t take my medical advice from Priests, Rabbis, or Ministers or religion in general. Others can do as they wish.

      All of the medical professionals I know have been vaccinated and I know many.

      No doubt they are all part of a grand conspiracy. 🙂

      1. Dennis Healthcare workers and first responders are the least likely of any industry to take the jab.

        Amid nationwide efforts to vaccinate the population against COVID-19, 49% of healthcare workers and first responders say that they would agree to receive the vaccine, while 34% say they would not, and 18% said they did not know whether or not they would agree to get the vaccine. According to new findings from the Franklin Templeton-Gallup Economics of Recovery Study, these front-line workers are about as likely as workers in other sectors to say they would agree to be vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine that was free, available, FDA approved and 90% effective.

        https://news.gallup.com/poll/328688/front-line-workers-no-keener-others-vaccine.aspx

        1. That poll was two and a half months ago, when the vaccinations were just getting started.

          With more than 100 million people vaccinated in the US, and millions more around the world, vaccination uptake among all groups is apparently pretty good. There are some regions where the vaccinations are not fully accepted, and those seem to be areas with less education.

          I know more than a few people who back in January had a ‘wait-and-see’ attitude, but have happily gone in for their dose. A close friend who’s a nurse said she was so happy she cried when she got the vaccine.

          Attitudes change.

        2. Farmlad,

          Clearly I don’t know every healthcare professional in the US, but my guess ( and personal experience) is probably more like 95% of healthcare professionals have received a covid vaccine.

          https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/press-release/kff-post-survey-of-frontline-health-care-workers-finds-nearly-half-remain-unvaccinated/#:~:text=As%20of%20early%20March%2C%20just,of%20health%20care%20workers%20finds.

          I focus on doctors and nurses who work at hospitals when I look at healthcare workers, rather than receptionsts, office workers for healthcare industry, janitors, cafeteria staff etc.

          In the healthcare professional group who work at hospitals and outpatient clinics:

          Most who work in hospitals (66%) and outpatient clinics (64%) say they have received a COVID-19 vaccine …

          1. Dennis From what I hear from inside hospitals I would guess it is exactly opposite of what you are guessing. A higher percentage of doctors compared to other staff are usually the ones that are saying no to the Covid vaccine even though they have been taking the flu vaccine up to this point to keep their jobs.

            This whole covid hysteria has been so evident for a long time. In the beginning I fell for most of the insanity coming out of Asia, but it didn’t take me long to come to some very different conclusions. I am Amish/Mennonite by birth. I keep my distance from most of the religious nonsense but these are my people. Most of the Amish and more conservative Mennonites skipped only a handful of church services (if any) in the early days of the lockdowns. Otherwise huge weddings and funerals continued with no social distancing or masks. I attended a handful of these events which attracted folks from several states.

            If you go by Dr Fauci standards you would predict they 100% would have experienced terrible consequences. So what happened? I personally know close to a hundred people that either tested positive or got sick after being at events or with family that tested positive and some of the elderly got really sick and 3 ended up going to a hospital and one lady in her upper 80s passed away several days after coming home from the hospital. Another gentleman in his upper 70s passed away at home several days after thinking he was recovering from an illness that I think was covid even though he tested negative several times and the doctor claimed it was not covid.

            So when it comes to Covid responses I live in two opposing world views and in hindsight I have no question which one is closer to the truth.

            1. Farmlad,

              Perhaps hospitals where you live are different. Where I live pretty much every physician has been vaccinated. The surveys in early March indicated 66% of doctors and nurses that work in hospitals had been vaccinated.

              See

              https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/dashboard/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-dashboard/

              68% of people that treat patients (doctors and nurses) have received at least one dose of the covid vaccine (survey was Feb 11 to March 7), my guess is the percentage would be much higher for a survey done one month later, probably more like 80 to 90% of physicians.

            2. A higher percentage of doctors compared to other staff are usually the ones that are saying no to the Covid vaccine even though they have been taking the flu vaccine up to this point to keep their jobs.

              Need a link for that bit of bullshit Farmlad. You just make up lies as you go along. Sydney Powell could be more convincing.

        3. “The Center for Disease Control reports 76.9% of all Americans over the age of 65 have received at least one shot of Covid-19 vaccine as of yesterday. Some 33.7% of the entire US population has also received one or two doses. The percentage of adult US residents who have been injected at least once is 43.2%.”

          77% of all senior citizens is pretty good!

      2. It’s more of a grand dynamic with little conspiracies, etc., along the way that can suck a society irreversibly down the can– health professionals, weapons scientists, government drones, post-adolescent cannon fodder and all, (or their counterparts)– including those who might have spoken up if it weren’t for indoctrination, intimidation, fear, imprisonment, disappearance and/or whatnot.

        By the way, your sort of comment is in part why this was included at the beginning of mine:
        [obviously approved by the World Doctors Alliance]

  11. Breaking Study Sheds More Light on Whether an RNA Vaccine Can Permanently Alter DNA

    “This was thought near impossible. Based on this ground-breaking study, I would hope that the highly presumptuous claim that such a scenario is impossible will find its way to the trash bin labeled: ‘Things We Were Absolutely and Unequivocally Certain Couldn’t Happen Which Actually Happened’; although, I have a suspicious feeling that the importance of this study will be minimized in quick order with reports from experts who attempt to poke holes in their work. It’s important to add that this paper is a pre-print that is not peer-reviewed yet; but I went through all of the data, methods, and results, and I see very little wrong with the paper, and some gaps that need closing- but, at least from the standpoint of being able to answer the question: can RNA from the coronavirus use existing cellular pathways to integrate permanently into our DNA? From that perspective, their paper is rock-solid. Also, please take note that these are respected scientists from MIT and Harvard…

    Instead of going through all of their results in detail (you can do that if you like by reading their paper linked below), I will answer the big question on everyone’s mind – If the virus is able to accomplish this, then why should I care if the vaccine does the same thing?

    Well, first let’s just address the big elephant in the room first. First, you should care because, ‘THEY TOLD YOU THAT THIS WAS IMPOSSIBLE AND TO JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE THE VACCINE.’ These pathways that I hypothesized (and these researchers verified with their experiments) are not unknown to people who understand molecular biology at a deeper level. This is not hidden knowledge which is only available to the initiated. I can assure you that the people who are developing the vaccines are people who understand molecular biology at a very sophisticated level. So, why didn’t they discover this, or even ask this question, or even do some experiments to rule it out? Instead, they just used superficially simplistic biology 101 as a smoke screen to tell you that RNA doesn’t convert into DNA. This is utterly disingenuous, and this lack of candor is what motivated me to write my original article.”

    PEOPLE! Don’t. Take. The. Covid. Vaccine.
    THAT MEANS NONE OF THE VARIATIONS OF THE INCREASING NUMBER OF COVID-19 VACCINES

    “Massive MSM Campaign of Vaccine Disinfo, Misinfo & False Info

    In light of this state of affairs, it can be declared that the Mainstream Media has been publishing numerous Covid news reports that were designed to mislead the public.

    Many of those reports give the distinct impression that the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are FDA approves. THEY ARE NOT.

    Both of these highly experimental mRNA vaccines have only been authorized for emergency use, which means that every recipient is nothing but a human guinea pig.”

    1. Dr Doug is a bullshitter,

      See

      https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/doug-corrigan-pushing-bad-science-and-anti-vax-tropes-about-mrna-vaccines/

      There are so many quacks coming out of the woodwork to push pseudoscience about mRNA vaccines – now, Dr. Doug Corrigan uses science pseudoscience to “prove” that the mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 are going to mess with your DNA. He’s wrong and let’s tell you why.

      Dr Doug is a Christian, he may believe that God will save us from Covid. 🙂

      Don’t believe random PhD scientists that may know very little about the specifics of cell biology.

      Fauci knows his stuff, Dr. Doug is a quack.

      1. Thanks, Dennis.

        I think it says something very profound about a person who believes such quackery. That is a person who cannot tell the very obvious difference between quackery and science.

        With the Qanon movement, there has been an explosion of quackery. These people are spreading dangerous bullshit. With their anti-masking, anti-vax bullshit they are costing lives. But history teaches us that we should never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

        Historian Yuval Harari says the study of the past has taught him an important lesson for the future. “One things that history teaches us is that we should never underestimate human stupidity. It’s one of the most powerful forces in the World”

      2. From Dr. Doug’s quoted article:

        “Specifically, a new study by MIT and Harvard scientists demonstrates that segments of the RNA from the coronavirus itself are most likely becoming a permanent fixture in human DNA. (study linked below)…
        […]
        Reference Article:

        Zhang, Liguo, Alexsia Richards, Andrew Khalil, Emile Wogram, Haiting Ma, Richard A. Young, and Rudolf Jaenisch. ‘SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome.’ bioRxiv (2020).”

        1. Caelan,

          Now that you have that reference, you should google it and read what specialists in that field think.

          It isn’t saying what you think it’s saying ….

          Just saying ….

          1. ‘Just Reading Thoughts’, With GerryF

            Out with it, then, otherwise we’ll start to suspect that you’re not quite sure what to make of it, of ‘what specialists in that field think’, never mind what I do. LOL

        2. I forgot to mention that “Dr. Doug” may not be a credible source.

          His article from last July that proposed that the US was close to herd immunity and no vaccine was needed, was pretty far off the mark. In fact, it wasn’t in the same universe as reality.

          His article on Quantum Mechanics in the Bible was equally adrift.

          When your source isn’t credible, it pays to look further.

          1. ‘May‘ not be a credible source? You’re unsure?

            Since you’re on about it, give us your cred-rundown on those MIT guys Doug mentions and that his article-in-question is about.
            At the same time, while you’re at it, and maybe for the sake of balance, if nothing else, do a cred-lookup on Dennis’ link‘s article’s author too. (A sample comment suggests a similar thing about the author that Dennis suggested of Doug BTW, not that that necessarily matters, does it?)

            And, if you have some extra time to blow, do a similar lookup on Fauci. What the hell ay?

            Take your time.

      1. Our Shots, Our Bodies

        I hear your link and raise you yet another. (sound of plastic gambling chips being thrown into a tabletop pile of others)…

        But, ok, let’s get our (mandatory?) vax shot(s) and maybe some sort of official doc that comes with it/them that attests to that fact that we can then present to the vax doc police and/or citizen rats in the event that it is requested in order for us to go about our business/lives.

        Good fun…

        I’m reasonably sure that the rabbi mentioned knows a little about that kind of thing (currently and historically), what do you think, MikeB?

  12. Greenland’s leftwing anti-mine party wins snap election

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/07/greenlands-left-wing-anti-mine-party-wins-snap-election
    I’m been following this.
    The rapers VS the savers.
    “At the heart of the election was a proposed international mining project by Greenland Minerals, an Australia-based company with Chinese ownership, which is seeking a licence to operate the Kvanefjeld mine in southern Greenland.”

    As one can see, Australia and China have no residents in Greenland. Rape and Scrape

    1. I’ve been following this story for several years as well. The following article describes the project from a geologist’s/mining engineer perspective.

      KVANEFJELD RARE EARTH – URANIUM PROJECT

      “The rare earth mine is estimated to have an initial production life of 37 years, based on an ore processing rate of three million tonnes per annum (Mtpa). The project is expected to produce a mixed critical rare earth concentrate, including neodymium, praseodymium, europium, dysprosium, terbium, and yttrium, as well as by-products including triuranium octoxide (U3O8), lanthanum and cerium products, zinc concentrate and fluorspar…

      The project is expected to be one of the world’s biggest undeveloped resources of rare earth elements, with JORC 2012-compliant resources of one billion tonnes. The current project involves the development of the Kvanefjeld deposit, which is estimated to hold 143 million tonnes (Mt) of measured resources. As of May 2015, the Kvanefjeld mine is estimated to contain JORC 2012-compliant proven and probable ore reserves of 108Mt.”

      https://www.mining-technology.com/projects/kvanefjeld-rare-earth-uranium-project/

    1. “ The new vehicle sales market in Norway reflects where the USA will be in less than 9 years” ~ Hick

      Is that a law of progress thing, or do you rather anticipate USA levels of gov adopting the policies that incentivize Norwegians to purchase EVs over ICE?

      Why Little Norway Leads The World In EV Usage https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2019/06/18/electric-cars-why-little-norway-leads-the-world-in-ev-usage/?sh=3d7ab35e13e3
      “Norway’s 25% sales tax was removed from new EV purchases in 2001,”

      Is it a good idea for a nation of 328million car addicts who get electricity from fossil fuel gas to emulate a nation of 5 million who get their electricity from hydro? Maybe public transport is a better idea than every American continuing the personal car addiction? Norway is not an apt analogy for future USA trends, but it does suit your need to be told what you want to hear, so there’s that.

      1. You are somehow making a simple story complicated. Purposeful?
        Simply- new sales of combustion only vehicles are going to do a heavy fade this decade throughout the world,
        down to about a 10% level in the USA by 2030.
        Its not about Norway at all.
        Its a global trend in a big industry.
        You hate the idea because it has something to do with your nemesis Musk?
        Once again- this story is not about Musk, or Norway.
        It has a lot more to do with Ohm, Faraday and Watt.

        1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita

          Norway has 2.7 million cars on the road; 514 per 1,000 people. USA has 273 million; 838 per 1000 people. Ever hear of the bus? You ever stop and think that maybe people in Norway might be doing something else right besides buying new cars? Might community transport be better for the environment than 273 million EVs for carbon-fat Americans?

          Why do you think USA will follow Norway’s trajectory? Law of progress? Similar policies? Norway is a poor analogy for future USA trends. The only interesting thing about your future predictions is that they mirror your future hopes, and hit your happy buttons. What do you call that methodology; “But, Amazon!”?

          Let’s cut the shit Hick. The optimum number of future American car sales, EV or otherwise, is exactly zero. That might be best for the environment no? Had you thought of zero before? Perhaps hoped for it? It is best.

          BYD secures statewide contract for electric buses with Washington state
          https://www.thefourth-revolution.com/buses/byd-secures-statewide-contract-for-electric-buses-with-washington-state/
          “The vehicles, which comply with Buy America standards, are manufactured by union workers in Los Angeles County.”

          Oh hey, speaking of unionized workers:
          Tesla is found to have violated labor laws by firing union supporter and Elon Musk tweeting something
          https://electrek.co/2021/03/26/tesla-violating-labor-laws-firing-union-supporter-elon-musk-tweeting/

          Nothing to see hear folks. Just some billionaire who doesn’t like workers. Nothing to worry about until he’s elected. Don’t listen to people who just want to make stories.

          Musk has shot his bolt and the cornucopians want to pretend like he was never their bag. Mention him at your peril. I’m interested to see who they shill for next.

          https://youtu.be/mTSYPg-KxhQ

          1. Survivalist you’re sounding like a Jesus Freak on acid, lol.

            Get down off your high hobby horse.

            Hickory’s a man who can and does THINK, and he thinks well indeed.

            There’s more than one kind of fantasy in this old world, friend.

            You’re talking like a three year old about something that absolutely isn’t going to happen, barring every naked ape on Earth being bombed back into the Stone Age.

            Is the Musk vision of electrified transportation perfect in every way?

            Only an idiot would argue that it is, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, the ONLY real world alternative……….. is the oil fueled ICE .

            A cure or treatment doesn’t have to work perfectly in every respect to be better than the disease it treats.

            Every once in a while I run into a starry eyed young woman who lectures me about providing her with ample, highly varied, always fresh, organic of course, food of every description, dirt cheap of course, and doing it using the methods she’s read about for maybe a couple of hours total, in some back to nature magazine.

            If she’s willing to take time to talk to me, it shocks the crap out of her when I tell her she’s free to give up her lifestyle and go back to digging in the dirt wearing clod hoppers, her hands covered with calluses, her skin turned to leather, an outside toilet…………..

            1. I visit my 94 year old mother with Alzheimer’s every day at lunch time to try to help keep her grounded. Yesterday she was dealing with a agitated mind state and refused to see me because I don’t take her home. She lives in diapers, thinks her parents are alive, thinks home is her childhood home and doesn’t have the strength to support any weight on her legs. I can’t meet her needs myself.

              At 4 o’clock yesterday afternoon I got a call from the caregivers and they handed the phone over to my mother crying with anxiety in fear of the caregivers. I told her everything was going to be OK and I would be there in a half hour(12 miles). Her response was I don’t think I can last another half hour.

              Google shows it takes 19 minutes to get there by vehicle and 2 hours and 12 minutes by bus. Today’s society won’t even drive without exceeding the speed limit. Maybe I can learn to ride a hobby horse and there won’t be a need to be rational.

            2. Another point is that EVs are going to take over the market whether or not they are a good thing. It’s happening. The car industry is investing hundreds of billions in the transition as we speak.

              Electrification is happening on two levels — the increased electrification of ICE vehicles and the increased market share of EVs. The former is things like drive by wire, brake by wire, no camshaft, software driven automatic transmission, fuel injection, active suspension, regen braking, mild hybrid tech etc.

              So even if ICEs survive, they will be part of a primarily electric system. The age of ingenious gadgets is ending. Software is eating the world. Shadetree mechanics will have to switch to coding.

              Some people find it difficult to separate what they want to happen from what they expect to happen.

          2. Surv-
            I’ll tell you what did piss me off about Musk-
            “Musk was one of a dozen CEOs who met with Trump at the White House on Monday to talk manufacturing, taxes and trade. He serves on the president’s economic advisory board and regularly meets with either Trump or his top aides.”

            I despise anyone who enabled trump, whether before ,after , or during his presidency.
            Cozying up to (and voting for) fascists, racists, and downright a-holes is inexcusable.
            Trump is the ultimate mountebank. He should be imprisoned for his tax fraud.

      2. Go test drive a Ford Mach E, or a Volks ID3 or 4.
        Or a plugin Toyota RAV4 Prime.

        And then you will have a better idea of why US vehicles sales of combustion only vehicles will be down to about 10% of total by the end of the decade.

        It is not the story I want to hear. I’d like the transition to be faster.
        But it is what I expect to happen.

  14. FAO food price index is up 2.1% from last month. And up 25% compared to this time last year.

    –

    1. He’s quoting Vaclav Smil, who is pretty much wrong about everything. For decades Smil has been claiming that massive shifts in energy production is impossible in the short term, even as they have been happening.

      Also high carbon prices, which he makes fun of, are in fact massively reducing carbon emissions in Europe right now. The cost of carbon to coal plants in Germany is higher that the wholesale price of electricity. Companies are begging the government to be allowed to shut down. Poland made an abrupt about face last year as well. Just because it isn’t a solution to all the world’s problems doesn’t make it a bad idea.

      Steel making can use hydrogen, which significantly reduces carbon emissions. Flying should be more expensive if no method is found to reduce carbon emissions. A lot of short hop flying could be replaced by rail or electric planes, and carbon pricing would facilitate that transition. First class long distance flying could probably also go electric. This would probably kill coach class as a viable business model.

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